Good counters to Sand and Sun teams?

Question

Making a new Rain team, want to know what some counters are.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm asking for certain Pokemon.

Answer 1

Heatran
- rain team sun counter; Flash Fire absorber, Grass and Bug resistance, phaser (Roar), immunity to Will-O-Wisp and Toxic.

Rotom-C and Celebi
- rain team sand counter; Leaf Storm STAB will be able to OHKO Hippowdon for eliminating sand, but not T-Tar because of Sp. Def boost. Rotom-C is much less predictable than Celebi is (because no one uses Rotom-C in OU except weirdos like me).

Keldeo
- rain team sand counter and sweeper; Choice Specs, Surf, Secret Sword, Icy Wind, HP Ghost. End of story.

Jirachi
- surprisingly good T-Tar counter; Serene Grace + Iron Head will have 60% flinch chance but is also super effective against Rock. Jirachi can carry Thunder, T-Wave or Body Slam for paraflinching, set up Substitute in Sand (no buffeting) or run a Trick set.

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Gastrodon (I'll add a sand rain counter so you know what you need to deal with)
- sand team rain counter; Storm Drain, Recover stall, good bulk and typing (one weakness), decent offensive presence.

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Terrakion
- T-Tar, Ninetales, Volcarona counter; Choice Scarf, Close Combat, X-Scissor, Earthquake, Stone Edge

(meme stolen from one of Mew's teams)
(but watch out for Gliscor and Skarmory)

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Your main goal when facing another team is to eliminate the weather starter while keeping yours still in the game. If you can eliminate Sun/ Sand, the weather boosts will be gone and you can sweep in rain.

Comments

Thanks.

Answer 2

Here's some generic crud c:
I don't think any Pokemon on a sand team like a STAB Hydro Pump or Focus Blast in the face from standard Specs Politoed (Bai T-tar :3), and alot of Sun Team threats don't like it either, even if they're in the sun. Also Ice Beam kills Venusaur and stuff if you predict it so :3. Who needs to counter when you can win the Weather War >:D
Heatran is a pretty good counter to alot of Pokemon on Sun Teams - the generic Venusaur, Volcarona and similar can't do flip to it.
Defensive Rotom-W lolz at alot of Sand Teams, Will-o-wisp cripples and then it can sit there forever... maybe. I think c:
Dragonite beats sun, Quagsire can beat sand, and Pokemon like Ferro/Jirachi in rain can wall the heck out of both c:

Comments

OK, thanks, I'll consider using those. :)

Answer 3

Water type moves and ground type moves
Come on Jar, think :P

Comments

I'm asking for certain Pokemon...