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Well I'm being destroyed by lots of rain teams. I want a good counter to them. The main things that they have are:
Almost Always
- Pelipper
- Ferrothorn
- Barraskewda
Occasionally
- Crawdaunt
- Tornadus-Therian
- Thunderous-Therian
- Seismatoad

Even scarf max speed kartana can't beat max speed (which most have) Seismatoad, which sweeps me whenever it's there. Also, its tricky to thunderbolt Pelipper as they almost always predict in something like a Thunderous-Therian and volt absorbing it. Crawdaunt is also a problem because of priority. Of course, there's also the almost unbeatable ferrothorn in rain. So, can someone give me some tips on how to beat these rain teams, specifically the things I mentioned?

Also my team:
Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psyshock
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt

Kartana @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Smart Strike
- Sacred Sword
- Knock Off

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Yawn
- Earthquake
- Flip Turn
- Stealth Rock

Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Fiery Dance
- Giga Drain
- Psychic

Mandibuzz (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Foul Play
- U-turn
- Roost
- Defog

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Scale Shot
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance

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yeah, so your best rain counter has to be tapu-lele . Only one change :
Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psyshock
- Moonblast
- Grass knot
- Thunderbolt
The problem is you should be able to switch between moves as your opponent switches his mons. but you also need speed from scarf...
only ferro is not destroyed from the above lele
Use a bulky pokemon with Agility and Baton pass to Tapu Lele and replace Scarf with Life Orb. Or is Baton Pass banned
You can run whatever you like. Just run defensive Zapdos, max SpD or something Tyranitar and max hp max def Tangrowth. You can go helmet but I prefer boots because it gets poisoned a lot. And seriously, why tf do you have have two choice scarfers?
Fun fact belly drum azumarill with aqua jet can epic sweep in rain teams

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So, the goal to beating Rain teams have 2 paths. One tip I usually keep in mind is don't try to outsweep the sweepers. Try to outlast them and wear them down.
1. Take down the Rain Setter
2. Take down the Rain Sweepers

I will take you through the 2nd method first. Now, just like the comments say, Tangrowth is a great option to counter Rain Teams and I know this from Experience. Fortunately for us, many Rain Sweepers like Crawdaunt, Barraskewda and sometimes Seismitoad are physical attackers. Additionally, Tangrowth doesn't worry about any of them due to its Physical Bulk. There is only a slight problem that Tangrowth will face though. This is a Special Seismitoad and a Pelipper. These 2, especially Pelipper, will rip right through Tangrowth. I propose a solution though, don't try to fix its Special Defense, but instead, buff its Physical Defense and combine this with a Rocky Helmet to get a Physical Killer that doesn't mind any Physical Rain Sweepers. My proposed set.

Tangrowth @ Rocky Helmet
Regenerate Ability
252 Def/252 HP/4 SpD
- Giga Drain
- Knock Off
- Focus Blast
- Sleep Powder

Now, this is only half the problem, we still have Special Sweepers a Pelipper to deal with. My idea as a solution is Rotom-W. Rotom doesn't mind anything from Seismitoad except for a Poisoning from Sludge Bomb. Rotom-W also has nice bulk to pressure any Frail sweepers and force a switch. Due to this, you can also provide offensive presence with a boosted Hydro Pump and Will-o-Wisp to provide a deterence to any Physical Sweepers. My proposed set -

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Levitate Ability
252 HP/152 SpD/48 Spe/56 SpA
Calm Nature
-Volt Switch
-Thunderbolt
-Hydro Pump
-Will-o-Wisp.

This combination of Tangrowth and Rotom-W should provide defense and pressure against Rain teams and I hope you find Success with it. The only threat against these 2 mons is Thunderus-Therian, but I believe that the rest of your team should cover it fairly well. Rotom-W also covers the 1st method of beating a Rain Team, by beating the Rain Setter. If you want another method, you could try another weather setter or even put something like Ferrothorn on your team to take advantage of Rain while still having a solid Pokemon to use.

Hope this helps!

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Thanks. Also who should I put those two in for?
I would probably swap them for Swampert and Mandibuzz.