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Which HM moves can be transferred between generations?

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According to this question, a Pokemon knowing the Whirlpool HM can be transferred from HGSS to Gen 5 by first trading it over to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum.

By extension I presume this means a Pokemon with Defog can be traded to HGSS and then transferred to Gen 5? What other HMs can be transferred to later generations? (Including Virtual Console if possible.)

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This question should please sumwun as it means I'm working on transfer-only moves for the site :D
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I transferred my Furret that knows Strength.
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Time_Capsule
Doesn't say HM moves prevent transferring, but they still might.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pal_Park
HMs prevent transferring.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Transfer
HMs prevent transferring.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Transporter
HMs don't prevent transporting.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Bank
Doesn't say HM moves prevent depositing or withdrawing, but they still might.
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Doesn't this site already have transfer only moves?
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It does, but not for Generation 7.
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Then Power-Up Punch needs to be acknowledged. A lot of Pokémon can only learn it through Gen 6.
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@Pokemaster By the way, the only HMs that were discontinued are cut, strength, flash, whirlpool, rock smash, dive, defog, and rock climb.
@Guy There are a whole bunch of moves like that. Pokemaster will probably write something to look at those moves automatically.
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As a Pokemon Bank user, HM moves DO NOT prevent transfer. I have moved a Luxray and an Excadrill, both of which knew Strength.
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Yeah I also transferred Pokémon with HM moves from AS to UM, and from Silver to UM.
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Huh what
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lol gets so many votes because he is pokemaster
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Maybe true, but people are upvoting bcs PM is working on transfer-only moves for this site
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I up-voted as thanks for not ignoring me. I don't know about anyone else, though.
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OK using sumwun's comment above and some manual testing, I've come up with this.

  • Gen 1 or 2 Virtual Console → Gen 7 (via Bank) = any HMs can be moved. Pokemon here can only be moved to Gen 7, not Gen 6.
  • Gen 3 → Gen 4 = no HMs can be transferred (including Dive in FRLG). Pokemon with Whirlpool can be transferred as it's not an HM in Gen 3.
  • Gen 4 → Gen 5 = Whirlpool can be moved from DPPt and Defog from HGSS, but no other HMs can be moved. Pokemon with Dive can be transferred as it's not an HM in Gen 4.
  • Gen 5 → Gen 6 (via Poke Transporter then Bank) = any HMs can be moved.
  • Gen 6 → Gen 7 (via Bank) = any HMs can be moved.
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i think some hm cant be moved cause the game doesnt want to soft lock the player
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