Wall for Tensa Zangetsu (page 3)

Yeah, quite a shame for MBeedrill since it has a cool design... And as for Iron Moth, it is manageable at times, but the set that pushes it imo is its pivot set:

Iron Moth @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fiery Dance
- Sludge Wave
- U-turn
- Morning Sun

Want to switch Ting-Lu to check Iron Moth? Get U-turned on and now you have a Mienshao staring you down. There's also this funny Ting-Lu overload HO strat that uses Grassium Z Blacephalon to severely weaken or OHKO Ting-Lu depending on how much you chipped Ting-Lu, which opens up for Booster Energy: Speed Iron Moth to clean late game. It also doesn't help NDOU took a check in Mega Tyranitar, who still did get chipped by Iron Moth's pivot set.

I already tried M. Pinsir Bug, it works, but bug does suck into matchups like Electric xd. NDUU is fine, Clefable is the best Pokemon in NDUU, Iron Moth is cringe, there's probably some consideration of NDUU retesting to unban Kommo-o, Mega Pinsir, and Drizzle. Also, Mega Beedrill is literally made fun of on the NDUU VR in the D rank section lmao

also hitting 1600 with 36 games is genuinely insane, I feel like I always match up with lower elo players and either gain almost no elo or lose massive chunks

Oh yeah, I also have been playing NatDex UU lately lol

Ohh and if you play NatDex OU, will ladder let Mega Banette drop to NDUU anytime soon? It will still be bad in NDUU and would eventually drop, but at least there it has a 70% chance to trade with a Pokemon, which is better than Mega Beedrill, who has a 100% chance of doing nothing in NDUU. I kind of wish Mega Banette had like +20 to its base speed, Tough Claws, and Play Rough so I could use Swords Dance Mega Banette in a NatDex format and feel good about it.

Usually I have 2 sweepers, and I try to position one to get rid of Banette so the other can clean. In the case of my Zardy-Gouging-DNite-Waterpon-Hat-Crown team, Iron Crown is usually the late game mon that comes in after Banette is removed because Encore messes it up. Therefore, I usually position Gouging to be exert extra pressure on the opponent, especially after Lando is removed by Zardy, Ice Spinner Dragonite, or Waterpon. This will force Banette to come in and DBond, thus allowing Crown to come in and clean up.
(this is best case scenario btw; during my tilt period I have lost to many a Banette)

Do you still play competitive Pokemon nowadays? I still play NU, and have 3 accounts a bit above 1500, one being my main. I decided to ladder on another account since my main and other alt have perfect gxes (74 and 79, which is not bad, but I don't want to make them a number with a decimal lol) Might get the 1 account that doesn't have an exact number higher if I feel like pushing to the 1600s on NU ladder, but Idk. I've been getting back into NatDex Monotype because it feels like with the NU HO team I have, NU ladder has kind of gotten a bit easy for me. :/ I made it to the 1600s on my main in NatDex Mono with mainly electric, being 6th out of the top 500 players on the NDM ladder. I also do decently in the roomtours in the NatDex Monotype as well. Could you give me a Pokemon and/or type for me to build with in NatDex Mono? I've been using a Sandy Shocks Electric lately that's quite fun, and I've been tempted to add a garbage mon for the 6th for another Electric team I want to make, but I haven't decided to do that (for now).

I usually don't, because I don't like grinding on an account that I'll never use again. Usually, if my team is based around a suspected mon, I try and grind on other teams that don't rely on that mon in case it actually gets banned.

yeah I just saw the suspect lol, honestly I'm not surprised if they ban it; I've had stupid success with Z Gouging and it is actually a great partner to Zard-Y, as Zardy easily removes many frustration Pokemon like Lando-T and Mola, potentially even baiting Tera Dragon from Mola.
the tilt is honestly pretty ass, especially since my motivation for quite literally everything has gone down. might take a hiatus after FL (if i get into FL), but i may need to chill for a while and focus on other things

They serve different roles, so you can't say Y outclasses X. But yeah, the opportunity cost of using Zard X is giving up the Mega slot for a Pokemon that gets its sweep stopped by so many mons, like Booster Val, bulky Lando, Tera Fairy mons (especially Dragons), and weak priority moves that would never kill except for the fact Rocks exist. Zard X is even worse off now because of the Dragon type competition. A team can choose from all of Raging Bolt, Gouging Fire, Dragonite, Garchomp, Kyurem, Kommo-O, the Lati twins, and Archaludon, and they generally don't want more than two Dragons if they're offensive and one Dragon if they're defensive/balance. Most of them offer something Zard X can't: the Lati twins and Garchomp are faster, Raging Bolt and Archaludon are strong with defensive utility, Kommo-O can omniboost in one turn, Kyurem can stallbreak, DNite has prio and can abuse Tera, and Gouging can abuse Tera along with Z. Critically, none of them are quad weak to Rocks, with only Gouging Fire potentially taking 50% from both Rocks and 3 layered Spikes. With how reliable hazard setting is now thanks to Tera, having to spend a turn Defogging or Rapid Spinning just isn't worth it for a sweeper, since it needs to stay a relatively full health to setup safely. By contrast, a wallbreaker can nuke a wall or two at low health since walls are generally slow. Thus, Zard Y suffers less from Rocks than Zard X.

Zard Y also has Solar Beam, meaning it can feasibly slot Roost without losing much coverage. As a breaker, it also doesn't need coverage to function, as it doesn't need to fully demolish a team. Zard X, on the other hand, is kind of make or break with its typing and moves.