How can I beat my friend's Mega Gengar?

Question

Gengar-Mega @ Gengarite
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hypnosis

This is his set, its really good and annoying, his mega gengar outspeeds mine and ohkoes it, I have a greninja and garchomp and excadrill, but his hypnosis, some way, hits every time and then does quick work of them, any non legendary/mythical Gen 6 or below Pokemon would be appreciated

Comments

Singles or doubles? What Pokemon, moves, and abilities are you not allowed to use?

Answer 1

An option that easily beats Gengar is Tyranitar. Tyranitar can also set sand for Excadrill, letting it sweep much more easily. Tyranitar tanks three Dazzling Gleams from Gengar while trapping it with Pursuit or OHKOing it with Crunch.

Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Lum Berry / Chesto Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Crunch / Pursuit
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Thunder Wave / Toxic

Pursuit will let you always eliminate Gengar when Tyranitar comes in because it can still hit if it tries to switch out. You can use Crunch if you aren't worried about it switching out. Earthquake is useful as further coverage, and Stealth Rock can be used to break sashes and provide more chip damage. Thunder Wave is useful for slowing down your friend's team, while Toxic can cripple their defensive Pokemon.

Leftovers is a good option to provide Tyranitar with passive recovery, but if you're worried about Hypnosis use Lum Berry. Chesto Berry is an option if your friend is using other status moves, as Chesto Berry doesn't effect non sleep status so it guarantees a cure of Hypnosis.

Calcs:

4 Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gengar-Mega: 270-318 (103 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Gengar-Mega Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 102-122 (25.2 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Comments

Tyranitar should probably use pursuit instead of crunch, in case Gengar tries to switch out.

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Makes sense, I'll mention that.

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Thanks! I do have a tyranitar with both, pursuit and crunch, but my friend plays mind games with me, but using it for sand is pretty good, GeniusGatiks answer can go well with this, and then excadrill could hold something like a choice band making it more dangerous

Answer 2

Use Sand Rush Excadrill
Under a Sandstorm, Excadrill can outspeed and OHKO that Gengar with a STAB EQ. Use this set:

Excadrill @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sand Rush
Adamant Nature
252 Atk/4 SpD/252 Spe
-Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Sandstorm
(Filler)

So, you set up Sandstorm on the first turn, doubling its speed because of Sand Rush. If Hypnosis hits, Lum Berry cures it. Then, you outspeed the Gengar and OHKO it with a Earthquake.

Calcs:
252+ Atk Excadrill Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gengar-Mega: 444-524 (169.4 - 200%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Gengar-Mega Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Excadrill: 228-268 (63.1 - 74.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Answer 3

Hello liz and I think you should go for charizard that goes mega.
Charizard
held item = mega x/y
move set :
flamethrower
earthquake
rockslide
fly/thunder punch

I always give my charizard this moveset because it is just a sweaper with this move set.
plus if you want to use dragon dance easy sweap so this is easy win against gengar.

Comments

what Nature and EVs?

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Gengar outspeeds every Charizard form and has a 60% chance of putting it to sleep.

Answer 4

Mega Gengar is difficult to check in the traditional sense, as it can usually choose its matchups favorably with Shadow Tag.

Pursuit: Pursuit users can trap Gengar on the turn it Mega Evolves, thereby preventing it from removing a Pokemon of its choice. However, Mega Gengar can still eliminate the Pursuit user with Destiny Bond, and Tyranitar is generally OHKOed by Focus Blast, while Mega Scizor is OHKOed by Hidden Power Fire.

Ghost-types: Ghost-type Pokemon are unaffected by Shadow Tag, allowing them to switch out freely against Mega Gengar. Giratina-O and Aegislash can also threaten Mega Gengar with STAB Shadow Sneak and have enough special bulk to survive a Shadow Ball from Mega Gengar, OHKOing it in return.

Priority: Super effective priority moves, such as Sucker Punch and Shadow Sneak, usually OHKO Mega Gengar before it can react. However, Sucker Punch fails if Mega Gengar does not attack and can still be exploited with Destiny Bond. Given its poor bulk, Bullet Punch can pick off a weakened Mega Gengar too.

Choice Scarf: Choice Scarf users can typically outspeed and OHKO Mega Gengar, allowing them to revenge kill it or force it out on a double switch.

Faster Pokemon: Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-A, Ubers's resident fast Psychic-type powerhouses, can outspeed and dispatch Mega Gengar, as can Deoxys-S if it carries Psycho Boost. Healthy Dragon Dance users such as Rayquaza and Mega Salamence can force Mega Gengar to risk a prediction between Taunt and Destiny Bond, as can Speed Boost Blaziken. Mewtwo forces a Speed tie with Mega Gengar, which it generally does not want to risk.

Shed Shell: Shed Shell allows a Pokemon to escape Shadow Tag freely but has no other utility.

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Comments

the Gengar doesn't have Destiny Bond, Focus Blast, or Hidden Power Fire.

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LiamXD said they can't use legendaries or mythicals, so Mewtwo, Deoxys, Rayquaza, and Giratina can't be used.

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@Cyberbear Does your comment imply that my answer is wrong? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
@Spooky That's exactly why I bolded all the Pokemon that are not legendaries or mythicals.

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Makes sense, I didn't notice that.

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you say that Tyranitar is OHKOed by Focus Blast and Mega Scizor is OHKOed by Hidden Power Fire, but the Gengar the asker wants to counter doesn't have Focus Blast or Hidden Power Fire, and Destiny Bond can't take out Pursuit users, because the the Gengar doesn't have Destiny Bond.

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Statements like "Mega Scizor is OHKOed by hidden power fire." are still true when nobody is using hidden power fire. Are you trying to say I should delete them because they're irrelevant?

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yes (six characters)