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Would a physical attacking Choice band Genesect using U-Turn faint Zarude?

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Just wondering if it’s a valid counter to Zarude, seeing as it has a *4 bug weakness.

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U-Turn is not that powerful.
Tho,with 4x Weakness,Choice Band,Atk based Genesect attacks,i'm pretty sure you can.
Tho,you don't need to worry that much since Genesect is not weak to Zarude.
If Zarude does have a Fire attack(which i'm pretty sure he can't learn one.Maybe Hidden Power only),then is much more of a threat.
But,i'm pretty sure you can.
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Hidden power was removed from gen 8.
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Without Attack EVs:

0 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 508-600 (144.7 - 170.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

With 0 Attack IVs, 0 Attack EVs:

0 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 448-532 (127.6 - 151.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
With 0 Atk IVs, but full Attack EVs:

252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 568-672 (161.8 - 191.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Normal:

252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 624-736 (177.7 - 209.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Full defence and HP EVs:

252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Zarude: 496-588 (119.8 - 142%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Attack EVs with full Defence Hp EVs:

252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Zarude: 448-532 (108.2 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Least possible damage:

0 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Zarude: 360-424 (86.9 - 102.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Full Attack IVs, no EVs:

0 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Zarude: 408-480 (98.5 - 115.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

  • No matter what, Genesect will always win Zarude, and also, Zarude is in RU while Genesect is in Uber.
  • Also, Genesect’s special and Physical is the same
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Ok this answer is totally awesome.
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All results will lead to a guarantee OHKO if the nature was Adamant. Note these calculations are with the nature Hasty. I don’t have time so I quickly posted this answer.
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Here : 252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 624-736 (177.7 - 209.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
So yeah, it would OHKO.
Hope I Helped!
source : Pokemon showdown damage calculator

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What about a 252HP, 252Def, +Def nature Zarude? And is the Genesect’s nature Adamant?
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oof sniped!
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yeah
it would check on damage calculator
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Just wondering if it’s a valid counter to Zarude, seeing as it has a *4 bug weakness.

Genesect is Ubers, and Zarude is NU, so it's weird that you will see Genesect counter it, as it would die to U-Turn from ant Bug-type in NU with average attack and while 252 HP/252 Def may allow it survive, nonetheless that EV set wouldn't be useful.

  • 252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 624-736 (177.7 - 209.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

As you told, physically defensive:

  • 252 Atk Choice Band Genesect U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zarude: 456-540 (110.1 - 130.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Most Bug-types with STAB would OHKO it with U-Turn, despite good defenses but 4x weakness.
Hope this helps!

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the tiers don't matter for the purpose of this question. I'm planning on using this for a mythical/legendary/ultra-beast only tournament on swsh and quite a few people are planning on using Zarude now that it's out.
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Why you didn't told that in your question or tagged it?
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Then use full team Uber
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Forgot to add it in the question, and it wasn't too relevant to the question. I'm not gonna use a full Uber team tho.
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