How to handle rain teams in gen 7 OU ?

Question

I just entered competitive and I am having a huge problem facing teams with pelipper, Mega Swampert and other swift swim users.

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Honestly, I just use a z fleur cannon Magearna. If the opponent has no steel type, then I just lead with Magearna and click on the z. Pelipper should be afraid of a thunderbolt or volt switch and would thus switch to Swampert, which gets destroyed by z fleur cannon. If Pelipper doesn't switch out then it's the one that will die to the z fleur cannon so whether the other guy switches or not, I win. This does get a lot more complicated if there is a steel type though

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I see a lot of rain teams running Ferrothorn though.

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Yeah but most would rather switch to Swampert to block a potential volt switch and momentum, which is what I've noticed in the rain teams I've encountered and I just kill their Pelipper or Swampert with the z move

Answer 1

The first way is to ensure that their rain lead (Drizzle user) doesn't get many chances to be sent out. You can also counter them using your weather modifier. Tyranitar helps with Sand Stream, however Mega Charizard Y is the best for check to rain teams. Mega Charizard Y, thanks to its great special attack and good Special defense can tank out two or three Scalds from Pelliper while 2OHKOing it with Solar Beam. Calculations:
252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Solar Beam vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pelipper: 202-238 (62.5 - 73.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
While:
0 SpA Pelipper Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Charizard-Mega-Y in Sun: 72-86 (24.2 - 28.9%) -- 97.8% chance to 4HKO
Other counters and checks to Pelipper:

Checks and Counters
Electric-types: Electric-types such as Tapu Koko, Magnezone, Thundurus, Rotom-W, and Mega Manectric threaten Pelipper greatly with their 4x super effective STAB moves, and they can make use of Volt Switch to either KO Pelipper or generate momentum by forcing it out.
Opposing Weather Setters: Mega Charizard Y, Tyranitar, and Alolan Ninetales can all terminate Pelipper's rain upon entrance thanks to Drought, Sand Stream, and Snow Warning, thus making it difficult for Pelipper to consistently perform its role.
Stealth Rock: Stealth Rock is very troublesome for Pelipper, as it not only shortens its longevity but also KOes it before Drizzle can activate if Pelipper is below 25% of its maximum HP and switches in.
Special Attackers: Powerful special attackers such as Ash-Greninja, Latios, and Tapu Lele can all do massive damage to Pelipper due to its underwhelming Special Defense stat.
Chansey: Chansey hard walls Pelipper and puts it on a timer with Toxic. Pelipper can only break Chansey by using Knock Off and coming in later to 2HKO it with Hydro Pump.

Apart from Mega-Y, Chansey also stalls most out of Pelipper and other special Swift Swim users like Kingdra, though it isn't that common compared to M-Swampert.
How much Chansey walls Choice Specs Ash-Greninja in rain:
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Rain: 289-342 (41.1 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Versus:
252 Atk Swampert-Mega Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey in Rain: 289-342 (41.1 - 48.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Wow! Now you don't ignore this dangerous staller.
Also, if you sent out Pelipper and any other weather lead such as Alolan Ninetales, the Pokemon with the slower speed's weather ability will activate later and stay. So that means Charizard and Tyranitar mega-evolving later and activating the weather latter also helps.
Hope this helps!

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Thanks a lot !

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