Why is non-mega Charizard in OU, while Typhlosion is in NU?

Question

First of all, I'd like to make a point. There is a gigantic gap between OU and NU.

Typhlosion has access to Eruption, and isn't 4x weak to Rock moves, while Charizard is already pretty much gone after switching into Stealth Rocks.

And what's more, they have the exact same BST. They also have similar movepools.

So why do people use Charizard so much more than Typhlosion?

Comments

this is a good point

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i'm guesing because it is over rated

Answer 1

Non-Mega Charizard does not fit OU standards, nor does Typhlosion for that matter.

However.

People don't know that the opposing Charizard is not a mega, which adds to a lot of mind games. In total that means that there are three types of Charizards that are possibly on the opponent's team, and most expect one of the either Mega formes.

And while normal Charizard is nearly non-existant in the OU tier, it's mega, Mega Charizard Y, is one of the most popular and powerful megas in the whole metagame, that gets serious firepower in the sun, along with near perfect coverage. This more than makes up for the Eruptions Typhlosion has. Also it can set it's own weather without using up a turn.

Most people expect this and bring along counters for this, while the actual mega is hiding in the rear, waiting for the chance to ruin the opponent. Imagine if you actually think that it's a Megazard Y the opponent has, and he decides to surprise you with his Mega Medicham.

People also predict Mega Charizard X, which is arguably one of the besst Dragon Dancers available in the tier, as it is immune to burn.

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Hope I helped!

Comments

Just thought I'd point out that Mega X is generally recognized as better then Y. X is S tier, whereas Y is A+ (I think)

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I dunno really, but one thing's for sure: both are way more common than the normal one.
I've seen Mega Y a lot more than X though

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X is getting less common because people don't want to use something everybody and their imaginary uncle expects. That being said, it just led to everyone expecting ChardY, so you might as well go with X if you want a set up sweeper.

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Thanks for answering!  I guess you can play mind games with non-mega Charizard.  Leaves me wondering when they'll come out with mega Typlhosion... :)