Are Sleep Talk and Snore moves worth learning?

Question

Also, what Pokemon do you recommend should learn these moves?

Answer 1

Snore is definitely out of the question. It is a weak move and only works if you are asleep, which worsens it a lot.

Sleep Talk, however, is different. It is one of the moves used in the very popular move combination ResTalk, which the Pokemon uses Rest and proceeds to repeatedly use Sleep Talk. This is done mostly for Pokemon that have no other way of reliably recovering HP, as Sleep Talk is an inherently luck-based attack.

Sleep Talk is also an okay filler move on some Pokemon if your team lacks a way to deal with common users of moves that cause sleep. It isn't ideal, but it can be useful if you're lucky.

Many Choiced Pokemon are decent users of Sleep Talk. ResTalk is good mostly on bulky Pokemon that lack a better way to recover HP. Often good moves to pair it with are phasing moves like Whirlwind or status-inducing moves so you can stall out opponents while using Rest to recover any damage received. ResTalk is outclassed by immediate healing moves like Synthesis or Morning Sun as they don't put you to sleep, meaning you don't have to use a moveslot on Sleep Talk. So if the Pokemon can use Synthesis or similar moves, don't use ResTalk.

Comments

So true, thanks!

---

Rest always lasts two turns tho

---

No problem! :)
@Le Scarf: Really? I swear, it lasts longer when I use it, and I've seen many people fail at predicting it too. >.>

---

Rest sleep length got changed in Gen 6 as I recall.

---

Checked Bulbapedia, and they say that it is 2 turns and they say nothing about a change in Gen 6. I guess the two turn thing is just not very well known. :3

---

Hmmm, it was two turns always and reset on switches, but I recall someone saying something. I guess not, so good to know it hasn't changed.

---

I are smart for once! :D

---

The change in sleep mechanics in gen 6 is that the Rest dosnent reset upon switching anymore.

---

I knew there was a change! Just couldn't remember what it was...

---

It's also halved to 1 turn with Early Bird.

Answer 2

Sleep Talk can be used in competitive battles incredibly well when paired with Rest.
Snore however isn't a common move because it rarely gets STAB and just isn't as useful.

In-game however I would say neither of these are particularly useful unless you do use stall sets on your in-game team.

Competitively: Sleep Talk - Yes | Snore - No
In-Game: Sleep Talk - Mostly No | Snore - No

Comments

I agree

---

:I (filler)
I got greninja'd

Answer 3

In most cases no.

However, if you have Rest on a Pokemon already, or are planning to give a Pokemon rest, then Sleep Talk and snore are decent options to use, in order to attack while asleep. Generally Sleep Talk > Snore, since if you have another 2 attacking moves they'll almost definitely be stronger than snore.

Answer 4

Well, for in gameplay snore is good early game with a rest strategy and sleep talk works most of the time the only problem with rest/sleep talk is if you have a Snorlax with Belly Drum and Rest as if you use sleep talk with ice punch you have a 1/3 chance of getting ice punch but with snore and one other move you may have a better time.