Why did my Pokemon stop producing eggs in Gen 2 while shiny hunting?

Question

I was breeding for shinies in Pokemon Silver using the shiny Ditto method. I had already gotten two shiny Cyndaquil nearly back-to-back after about 50-70 eggs, and then I decided to move on to Zubat for whatever reason. It had been a while, a lot longer than it took to get the Cyndaquils, when they suddenly stopped producing eggs. This happened at exactly 90 eggs, just in case the number is important.

No matter how much I ran up and down in Goldenrod, they wouldn't make any eggs, so I decided to take the Zubat I had in and replace it for one that I had hatched. Still, no eggs were made at all. I decide at this point to catch a new Zubat to try that, but still had no luck. Because of this I gave up and moved on to Totodile, and got a shiny one pretty quickly, at around 30-40 eggs. I tried coming back to Zubat but to no avail still. Then I moved on to Eevee to hunt. However, the same thing happened that had happened to the Zubats, this time at exactly 25 eggs hatched. I moved on to Charmander and hatched a shiny at exactly 6 eggs. Now I tried to hatch a shiny Mareep but the same thing has happened again, this is at exactly 21 eggs hatched.

Please someone help me out I have no idea whats going on. Before you ask, the Pokemon say that they're friendly with each other when interacted with in the day-care (Ditto had gone up nearly 60 levels by now and I don't have the kind of money to take it out of the day-care with a fee like that right now). I made an account just so I could ask this, please someone help.

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When trying to breed both Zubat and Ditto, does the person say something before receiving an egg?

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What do you mean before receiving an egg? And who are you talking about? To be clear, this whole scenario with zubat happened over a week ago, maybe almost 2 weeks now.

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When you add two Pokémon at the daycare (if that is what they have in gen 2) for them to breed, isn’t there someone that tells you if they get along, or that they prefer to play with other Pokémon?

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Yeah, when you talk to the pokemon in the day-care, it says that its friendly with the other one thats with it

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I had this problem when I was playing Pokémon X when breeding for a Goomy. It took so long but after a while I finally got it. I guess you just have to be patient to get what you want. :/ Good luck!

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Alright, thanks for trying to help

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Yeah no problem. We are always here to try our best in answering. If I find anything else regarding your question, I’m sure I’ll post it here. :)

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I believe I have found an answer for you. :)

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This reminds me of my silver vc playthroughs. I put five of my six Pokémon main team in the pc at Goldenrod to transfer them to Bank. All of a sudden, they were gone. I couldn’t see them in poketransporter nor were they there when I checked the pc in-game despite many restarts. Distraught (understandably), I started over with a new save file. When I reached Goldenrod I decided to withdraw a Pokémon I had caught earlier in the new save file. All of a sudden the five Pokémon I had deposited from the previous save file were there, ready for me to use. It’s possible the answer lies with how breakable assembly code is, but I don’t know enough about it to possibly troubleshoot the source code to understand why there seems to be a limit to certain Pokémon breeding in your game. Hopefully one day a Supernerd will appear and answer all of our questions.

Answer 1

Hello my friend. I probably know what is going on. The point Moon5780 brought to us is a very important one to note. But I think that is not the problem. As you said the eggs WERE BEING generated but suddenly stops.
I struggled a lot with that while breeding my normal Ditto with "Shiny DNA" (it has 10 DEF IV and 2 SPC IV) trying to breed shinies, and were also suddenly stopping generating eggs. To make it generate eggs again, I always had to retrieve both pokes from day care, then deliver them again. And these days I just got the answer for why this was happening. It was of a surprise for me, I didnt know that because I never saw this info anywhere, but here is the problem: if you refuse to receive the egg once, the old man get the egg for himself, and dont warn you of a new egg from those parents ever again (until you retrieve both of them as I said before). You might had refused the egg for accident and didnt co-related this fact to the stopped egg generation.

See, as you said you tried to exchange the zubat, and got no success. Thats because the old man already know that you dont want the zubat eggs from those parents! Then you exchanged the zubat for Totodile, and now the resulting egg for this new couple is a different one, so the old man starts to warn you again about the eggs. Then you tried once more with the zubat, but the old man still remeber that you dont want zubat eggs from those same parents! And this is why you must retrieve both Pokemons from the day care and place them there again: until you let the ditto there, the old man still consider that refuse of before. You must retrieve both, so it goes like the old man thinks that is a new zubat AND also a new ditto, not the same one that you refused from.

You might had refused the egg by accident also with your Eevee and Mareep.

Answer 2

With further research, I believe I have found the answer to your question. I think I do not need to explain how breeding works because I assume you know how to breed, as you had mentioned you received an egg of the Pokémons you bred at the daycare.

So according to Bulbapedia,

In Generation II only, if the Defense IVs of two Pokémon are the same, and the Special IVs are either the same or differ by 8, they cannot produce Eggs. Because of how IVs are passed down from parents, this condition suggests the Pokémon are related.

This is why you could not receive any more eggs because the two Pokémon that you added to the daycare were “related”. Therefore, no egg can be hatched.

So, to see if Pokémon are not related to each other, we need to take a look at their individual values (IV’s). Here I will include the HP (which you won’t need because you only need to check for defense and special, but I will include it just in case) and OtherStat formula if you would like to use them. Keep in mind what Bulbapedia says and you should be good.

HP Formula
OtherStat Formula

I hope this works and helps in clearing out your confusion. Good luck!

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Does this explain OP's recollection that the same Pokemon were first able to produce eggs, but then suddenly weren't able to? Are you saying their IVs changed?

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According to Bulbapedia yes.

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Am I missing something? Can IVs change in earlier games?

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Is that a new question?

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Fizz asked 2 questions, so which one are you answering "yes"?

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I'll keep this in mind if/when I start GSC hunting.

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@a baby feel free.